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2017 Vegas Prediction Thread.....

Last edit: vespajet on Saturday, 31st December 2016 12:01 pm
Last response by vespajet 19th January 1:40pm

The annual tradition returns for yet another edition.

1. Resorts World gets delayed another 2-3 years.
2. Alon will get back on track after the Blackstone Group invests in it.
3. Lucky Dragon will add more "Western" casino games like craps.
4. Wynn will indefinitely delay Paradise Park.
5. The NFL owners will narrowly defeat the Raiders' relocation request, but the team will use the courts to force relocation to Las Vegas.
6. Work will finally start on 18 Fremont and a name will be revealed as part of the name of the merged players clubs of the D and the Golden Gate.
7. Dark Bar will return.....
8. The Clark County Commission will roll out their own version of the street performer regulations the City of Las Vegas enacted.
9. One of Gordon Ramsay's restaurants will shutter.
10. Spiegelworld will move to Cosmo after successfully winning a lawsuit against BASE Entertainment.

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 hail2skins responded on Saturday, 31st December 2016

Thanks Vespajet......was thinking about starting a predictions thread a few weeks ago.

Looking forward to seeing something happen with 18 Fremont.

Do you think an on-track Alon would help the Paradise Park timeline, or do you think there's any correlation between the two projects?

I'm wondering if 2017 is going to see the first $50 resort fee on the Strip as well as a continuation of deteriorating gaming conditions on the Blvd. Then again, can things get much worse?

 vespajet replied on Saturday, 31st December 2016

Alon wouldn't affect Paradise Park's timeline, as Wynn Resorts putting it on the shelf has more to do with Macau than anything else. Wynn looks to be trying to shore up their finances because of Macau and ongoing issues there (Sheldon Adelson lost $3 billion in a half hour earlier this month as the result of the Chinese government cutting the amount per day people can withdraw from UnionPay ATMs by 50% in a further attempt to prevent high rollers from the Mainland from bringing as much cash to Macau. It's having an effect on Wynn and MGM as well.). That could explain why they sold a 49.9% stake in their retail operations to Crown Acquisitions (Unrelated to the Crown Resorts company owned by James Packer.). There's been ongoing talk that the second phase of Wynn Palace, Wynn Diamond, is likely shelved.

 Ricogreen responded on Saturday, 31st December 2016

Here are my 2017 Vegas Predictions.
1. Boyd Gaming will buy the Alon site with plans to rebuild the Stardust there.
2. Andrew Pascal and his team will be hired to complete and run a new project at Fontainebleau site.
3. The Rio will be sold.
4. Binion's will quietly start renovations to it's hotel Tower.
5. The SLS brand will be replaced in 2017.
6. Caesars Entertainment will replace its CEO with a well known gaming executive.
7. Resorts World will finally be started.

 Chuckmonster responded on Tuesday, 3rd January 2017

1. Las Vegas casino companies will continue to cut benefits, comps and quality in their race to realize profits from their mid-00's near bankruptcy bets.

2. Standard, non-luxury four star hotel rates will rise to insane weekend levels - > $300/night plus resort and parking fees. Smart people will take a break from their Las Vegas habit and wait out the storm.

3. Wynn will buy the Alon parcel from Crown/Pascal/Oak Tree and quickly start building a variation on the Wynn Park hotel concept.

4. The Las Vegas Club hotel tower will be imploded in late 2017, possibly during a weekend in the middle of October.

5. Las Vegas' fourth estate will continue to languish.

6. Sheldon Adelson will die unexpectedly.

7. Jim Murren will announce his intention to leave MGM in 2018 and spend time grooming/selecting his successor.

 MeltYrselfDown replied on Thursday, 5th January 2017

number 6 - you say "unexpectedly," i say "finally."

 anawas replied on Thursday, 5th January 2017

You're suggesting a Las Vegas Club implosion could occur during VIMFP?

 levans responded on Wednesday, 4th January 2017

1. The number of restaurant openings in Vegas will rise but some places that we do not expect will close.

2. The Park and the surrounding area will become the new cool place to be in 2017

3. Resorts World will begin major construction and the move will push Circus Circus into improving the hotel.

4. Lucky Dragon will be a success but will not result in more people wandering into SLS by mistake.

5. The NFL will block the Vegas move of the Raiders

6. Alon will live on in some form.

7. Chuck will see me more times during VIMP than normal and I will buy him donuts

8. I will review more restaurants if the dining section adds all the cool places I have eaten at the last few years and the places I will attend during VIMP.

 MeltYrselfDown responded on Thursday, 5th January 2017

1. the overall homogenization of town and lack of benefits to the little guy will result in a month to month decline in tourism.

2. simpsonwave ( EXAMPLE ) will be the next big thing for nightclubs.

3. milkbar will usher in a new dessert obsession and become the next annoying food trend.

4. VT staffers will take a break from the action and visit the caribbean. i mean...cuba is now libre...

5. nobody will win the megabucks jackpot in 2017.

6. the pool at the nugget will continue to be the only decent pool downtown.

7. gen-y (or young gen-x) will bring their shitty hipster kids to town. but apart from demanding organic non-dairy nut-free almond-based "milk" at every meal, it won't really be that bad since they're happy living in a virtual world at all times anyway and won't even be tempted to play outside by the pool or require a gameroom that would encroach upon casino space.

 MinVegas replied on Friday, 6th January 2017

"gen-y (or young gen-x) will bring their shitty hipster kids to town."

That's gen-x. I'm turning 35 this year and technically lumped in with millennials even though I can remember where they used to rent VHS tapes at all of my hometown grocery stores. My friends's kids are about 8-10 years old, so they're not hipsters just yet.

 jucifers responded on Friday, 6th January 2017

1) MBA bean counters will continue the rape and destruction of Las Vegas.
2) All announced casino projects will be shelved indefinitely: Alon, Resorts World, Fontainebleau and Paradise Park will not be built before 2025, if ever.
3) Las Vegas casino companies will shift their focus to casino opportunities in Japan, Brazil and the eastern seaboard of the USA.
4) Devastating fires will break out at several Las Vegas properties, due to deferred maintenance cost cutting. People will die. Buildings will be condemned.
5) Las Vegas will kill the goose that laid the golden egg. Gotcha fees and paid parking will drive visitors away from the Las Vegas Strip into competing vacation destinations.
6) The Trump administration will sue MGM and Caesars for antitrust violations and launch proceedings to break them up into smaller companies. Trump's approval ratings in Nevada and California will skyrocket, as a result of smashing the hated duopoly.

 BillDonovan responded on Saturday, 7th January 2017

-Congress will introduce a travel regs bill to eliminate airlines, hotels, & restaurants from adding "fees". To be fair to the consumer, Products & Services will be marketed fairly with one price, with no additional fees or hidden surcharges, (dream).
-someone will jump in & replace Crown & build the Alon resort, (pipe dream).
-Caesars will sell a property, or two, (hopefully).
-MGM will sell a property, or two, (we wish).
-someone will purchase & demolish the rusting Fountainbleu eyesore (fantasy).
-Resorts World will actually build their resort, (illusion).
-traffic & parking congestions from the NHL Golden (shower) Knights games will initially be overwhelming for the strip, (reality).
-a football stadium will be built for football events, whether Raiders move to Vegas or not, (possible).
-discussion will start about Vegas getting an NBA franchise, (mo money).

 vespajet replied on Sunday, 8th January 2017

The way the bill that funds the stadium was written, even if the Raiders don't move to Las Vegas, the money would go towards a new stadium for UNLV. Either way, Las Vegas is getting a new stadium.

 wpsteel66 responded on Tuesday, 17th January 2017

Airline tickets to Vegas will continue to increase in price.

Customer service at The Cromwell will continue to be outstanding, but the property maintenance and upkeep will fall victim like the other CET properties.

Carl Ichan will be told to sh!t or get-of-the-pot with Fountainebleau. Finish the building, sell, or tear it down.

Resorts World will continue to drag their feet and delay any significant building progress on that property.

The dirt patch across from Wynn will remain a dirt patch.

Tropicana will be aggressive in remodeling and adding more eating and shopping venues.

Most units at The Bazaar Shops at Bally’s will be torn down.

Three restaurants in Aria will change.

Three more pharmacies will open on the strip.

Zumanity at NYNY will close and that space be used for The Park and Theater expansion.

The Raiders will not move to Vegas.

Wynn will build a bridge to nowhere and keep the entire golf course.

Wynn will reduce craps odds to x1 and increase minimum bet from $50 to $100 for 3:2 BJ.

CET will charge $0.25 per BJ hand for any table less than $25 and still pay 6:5. Clueless people will continue to play BJ at CET with these rules/conditions.

The craps tables at Mirage will move back to their original location.

 skyyontherocks responded on Tuesday, 17th January 2017

1) Casinos will step up their rules against smokers.

2) Traffic will be a mess based on several factors including roadwork and related construction.

3) Uber/Lyft will raise their rates while the taxi authority will lower theirs

4) A new casino or entertainment project, (similar to Top Golf), will be announced for either north or south strip.

5) Boyd will aggressively continue to expand its loyal clientele by appealing to the gambling demographic that is feeling pushed out of the duopoly casino programs.

 NeverJustJ responded on Wednesday, 18th January 2017

Station will make a play on the strip...acquiring a major property from one of the two major players...Planet Hollywood, maybe.

After successfully reviving Circus Reno, Eldorado Resorts will test the waters in Las Vegas...somehow...maybe buying something off strip, Ellis Island or something from Boyd. (Long shot, Rio!)

More than a few acts recently dismissed by Ringling Brothers will find their way to The prediction on their success or failure.

Day clubs will fade...but not die.

Skill based gaming will crash-and-burn when an ambidextrous savant wins millions.

More Boy Band residencies.

A celebrity chef will open downtown to great success.

 vespajet replied on Thursday, 19th January 2017

Red Rock Resorts is more likely to buy the Fontainebleau. With the Caesars bankruptcy looking like it is finally drawing to a close, they're unlikely to look at offloading any Vegas properties. Buying the Palms gave them a good Strip-adjacent property that still has some cachet to their name.