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It's Spreading Like the Fucking Plague - Wynn & Encore to start charging for Valet Parking

Last edit: hobgoblin7777 on Wednesday, 30th November 2016 9:48 pm
Last response by motoman 13th December 11:29am

http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/nov/30/wynn-encore-to-start-charging-for-valet-parking/

This makes me want to cry. Back when Steve-O owned Mirage Resorts I always liked his properties the best. The fact that he is charging for Valet Parking and not (yet) for self parking leads me to believe the King of Customer Service Steve once was is dying. RIP Great Customer Service and the Las Vegas casino industry being thankful and loyal to their patrons. What's next? Oh wait. I know. A charge to enter casinos?

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 jimmybond responded on Wednesday, 30th November 2016

all I know is this paid parking plague is the greatest thing ever to happen to the monorail business.

monorail! monorail! monorail!

 jimmybond responded on Wednesday, 30th November 2016

not to mention, maybe this added revenue stream from parking will give Alon and Resorts World a fighting chance at getting built. Heck, for the latter it's the first thing they built! :)

 anawas responded on Wednesday, 30th November 2016

Uber and Lyft are loving this.

 vespajet replied on Thursday, 1st December 2016

But I'm sure that the car rental companies in Vegas are cursing MGM, Caesars and now Wynn.

 jucifers replied on Thursday, 1st December 2016

The hookers and drug dealers hate it too.

 anawas replied on Thursday, 1st December 2016

Actually, I've been wondering whether cars rented on site from a casino have to pay to park or if there are designated rental parking spots that are free, even overnight, if the car looks like it belongs to the rental company.

 HankTheDwarf responded on Thursday, 1st December 2016

Probably wishful thinking, but perhaps this and the perpetually increasing resort fees will be the catalyst for enough people to complain to their representatives in order to finally get some legislation going. Fucking arrogance.

 Malibugolfer replied on Friday, 2nd December 2016

Bring the government in? Are you crazy? The way it works is these casinos are selling a service. If enough people are like Hank, then perhaps the charges will be modified. But if the willing paying customers use the service, then that's between them and the casinos.
Nobody is owed anything by those conglomerates. Vote with your feet, not with complaints to the nanny state.

 MinVegas replied on Friday, 2nd December 2016

Malibu, people feel resort fees are deceptive advertising because they deflate advertised prices and are hidden in fine print. It's hard to vote with your feet when you need to be informed (or stung once) to know how.

The FAA began making airlines list ticket calendars etc with all the applicable airport and carrier fees included precisely because too many airlines were showing $2 fares and after then only after six reservation screens to collect your name, billing info, etc, presented you with a $74 grand total.

Only an informed populace can make the best choices for themselves, and there's nothing "nanny state" about informing the public. It's only when the public is informed and government still makes the decision for them that label even applies. Nobody's said the government should outlaw resort fees, but that it should be showed in the advertised rates and not the "base fare" before fees are applied, because that's misinformation.

 Malibugolfer replied on Friday, 2nd December 2016

Min,
I agree RS are underhanded and take advantage of the less careful or sophisticaed traveller, parking charges will be quite obvious in contrast.
I can see where, like airfares, proper disclosure is warranted, but parking? What could Nevada do that wouldn't be interference in just a standard business decision?
Of course the state has the power to do many things, however ill advised with unintended consequences.
And we know who runs the state anyway, and it's not tourists from Idaho.

 okvegas responded on Thursday, 1st December 2016

I've haven't rented a car (and only used two taxis) since Uber and Lyft came to town. I don't see the fees actually causing tourists to change plans, but it would be interesting to track the California/Northern Arizona traffic to see if they start staying other places. My feeling is that the fee isn't widely known yet, and people aren't considering it when booking.

 Diablo replied on Thursday, 1st December 2016

Its fairly easy to get those parking charges comped, unless youre a freeloader.

 Diablo responded on Thursday, 1st December 2016

People cry about paying $10 for parking but dont say anything about the horrible gambling conditions. They dont realize you lose alot more playing 6:5 blackjack or 2x craps than a measly $10. At least you can justify the parking fees, whereas the gambling odds are just blatant greed.

But lets forget the fact that Wynn hiked their resort fees to $35 long before MGM did (but VT wont report on that..they still have Wynncore listed as a $32 resort fee), and they have had horrible gambling odds. But hey, we gotta blame MGM for everything now.

 Drake replied on Thursday, 1st December 2016

Hey, I'll be happy to join the "dump on Caesars" bandwagon, too.

Take their bogus CYBER16 "25% Discount Sale." They're not discounting dick. All they did was add a phony bumped-up "Regular Price" to their web rates and put a slash through it.

I was checking rates daily and I can attest the actual rate didn't change one freakin' penny when this scam "sale" started. It's all pretend.

 fudgewapner replied on Thursday, 1st December 2016

People do bemoan the gaming conditions, but it's mainly the people here or on other boards like VMB. But, likely 98% or more of the complainers still come to town. And, people don't like math and are inherently lazy. The recent election shows people don't dig into facts or information at all, so an expectation for them to know the % HA increase on 6:5 or how to pick a good Double Double Bonus game paytable is way too high.

 LeoNYC responded on Thursday, 1st December 2016

Correct if I am wrong, but Wynn also recently started charging resort fee for the Tower Suites.

 MinVegas responded on Friday, 2nd December 2016

Wynn's choice to not charge for self-park is smart if he's planning to charge people to go to Paradise Park. Valet makes more sense because it's the kind of job that can never be done by robots until you the customer own a self-driving car, and companies are trying to automate and reduce labor everywhere it can.

 hobgoblin7777 responded on Sunday, 4th December 2016

Based on reading the article my interpretation is Wynn will eventually charge for self park as well. The article states, "Weaver said self-parking in the garages “remains free of charge at this time,” though he did not say whether that policy would change."

Personally to me that reads either (A) We are waiting to see how paid valet parking goes, and based on this analysis, we will determine whether to implement paid self parking and/or (B) The answer Weaver provided was just a place holder and they are in the process of putting in/planning the pay-to-park infrastructure.

Thoughts?

 motoman replied on Tuesday, 13th December 2016

B.
Wynn has the luxury of no freeloader parking for now, since Wynncore is essentially the far north end of the Strip. Once the other properties (Alon, Resorts World) come online, that will change.

(FWIW I always felt Wynn took a hit once the properties across the street were imploded and created a no-man's land on the North Strip, despite remarks about not wanting "those folks" for foot traffic. We used to walk that entire corridor when there were things to see. How many tourists now don't even bother to venture that far after Palazzo or the main Wynn casino? At our very last stay at Encore, it did seem like a small additional chore to get out of the complex and hit the Strip, since we prefer to walk rather than cab most of the time.)
(The only thing closer/more convenient, was Peppermill ;)