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Anti-Vegas Story

Last edit: wpsteel66 on Friday, 19th February 2016 4:19 pm
Last response by ffye20 1st March 1:21pm

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/05/las-vegas-reasons-hate

I came across this story on VegasSeven.com…written by a British journalist describing why she hates Las Vegas…I do not know what hotel or part of the strip she is describing, but just goes to show how some journalist express their biases/hate instead of reporting.

Interesting part of this story are the readers’ comments…570 comments…I did not read all of these but the majority of what I did read are very negative of Las Vegas…a few people did comment on the one-sidedness of the story and calling the author out followed by mentioning good features of Vegas…yes, this is a British publication and we have to consider their views, but maybe these people really need to read and keep up with VT on a regular basis to get the real side of Vegas.

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 Dramman responded on Friday, 19th February 2016

Its also worth mentioning its that its the Guardian. That rag.

 Jooch responded on Friday, 19th February 2016

She says her key had a bikini girl on it offering services, then her hotel room had pamphlets for the same services. Lastly, she mention her on strip hotel had McDonalds, 3 Starbucks, and Dunkin Donuts in it. I am pretty sure this hotel does not exist. Terrible excuse for journalism. Glad to know she won't be back.

 LosZorros responded on Saturday, 20th February 2016

Las Vegas will never appeal to a left wing lesbian feminist who writes for the Guardian. The article should be dismissed as quickly as a Donald Trump rambling speech. Ignorant words come from ignorant people. Anyone who compares Yoga with Vegas clearly has an agenda. This is not representative of the U.K. view of Vegas.

 Jarvisi responded on Saturday, 20th February 2016

This is definitely not the general view of Vegas in the UK.
Just returned from our 12th trip and looking forward to going back, can not recommend the city enough.
This article would be typical of a left wing pro Europe reporter. As previously stated they should have at least mentioned where they stayed.

 Chuckmonster responded on Saturday, 20th February 2016

Disclosure: I've been hired by the Guardian three or so times to write Las Vegas related articles for their daily newspaper and special Travel sections. I know nothing about UK politics or how the Guardian sits within a spectrum of beliefs. I do not know the author.

It seems that one of these articles shows up in the press every two or three years. The story is usually the same - person doesn't like Vegas due to having a puritanical bent, an axe to grind or personal cause they wish to espouse. The reporter comes to Vegas, make dozens of noob mistakes, fan the fires of their dislikes and fill in the rest of the column space with untruths and assumptions.

I love these articles. It proves that not all writers and editors are trustworthy, double check their facts or take true responsibility for what they write and publish. On the positive side, these dunderheaded travelogues are infinitely hysterical.

 cschoony responded on Saturday, 20th February 2016

I read the article and I too had difficulty figuring out where she had been staying (I just got back a little over a week ago), It seems to me that she had a preconceived idea about Las Vegas. We all know that you either love it or hate it. Having said that and noting that it is the Guardian (I'm Canadian and my Dad was a Brit so I am familiar with the publication) I don't hold much stock in her opinion nor should anyone else. Journalism has changed - most articles now are not necessarily factual anymore but just an opinion in disguise.

 pkluvsvegas responded on Sunday, 21st February 2016

This hate piece is everything I would expect from a liberal rag like the Guardian.
The nasty person who wrote this did what any good leftist does, embellish and outright lie in order to make the story fit their narrative.

No Strip Resort would have a key card or leaflets with escort numbers on it. No hotel I know of has 3 Starbucks. How terrible the taxi driver, who is obviously beneath the reporter's station in life would dare to speak with them.

Most Brits love Vegas as it is cheap, fun, and a big change from what they are used to at home.

If this journalist wants to visit a real hell hole, they should open their window and look out at their country being overrun by terrorists from The Middle East.

 cschoony replied on Sunday, 21st February 2016

MGM believe it or not has 3 Starbucks - west wing, central casino and food court

 pkluvsvegas replied on Monday, 22nd February 2016

Wow, I have never noticed that before.

 henrque replied on Monday, 22nd February 2016

At Caesars, there's a Starbucks by the spa, one by the food court, and another in the Forum Shops.

 saharalv replied on Tuesday, 23rd February 2016

Whew! Calm down there, cowboy.

 4theoldman1 responded on Sunday, 21st February 2016

Sounds like the print version of clickbait. If it's controversial, people will go to it, hence the hundreds of comments, most probably by the employees and relatives of their Guardian staff, ha! Not everybody "gets" Las Vegas, some visits will suck more than others. Of course, the Guardian is, as suggested, a Leftist, anti-capitalist rag. Curiously, most of the Brits and Scots I've encountered in town are up for the game and, when puzzled, ask questions and then find their way to a good experience. Perhaps Las vegas resort owners did not succumb to extortion attempts by the Guardian for advertising buys or comps, ha! Thank you. Carry on.

 LosZorros replied on Tuesday, 23rd February 2016

Scots are Brits. England,Scotland,Wales,Northern Ireland = Britain.

 blissfulignoramus responded on Sunday, 21st February 2016

I have to admit, that the worst thing about Vegas is the trophy hunting. I hate dodging bullets walking down the Strip, as pith helmeted adventurers mow down the Vegas Big Five. Look, I'm as annoyed by porn slappers, filthy costume panhandlers, crappy souvenir hawkers, British tourists and Criss Angel as the next guy, but this wanton bloodshed is a little much.

EDIT: I only read the first paragraph.

 EnglishBill responded on Monday, 22nd February 2016

As you can see, I'm English & sadly I understand the left wing folk who distort all facts to suit their views.
They seem to think if they take a certain stance on anything normal folk enjoy or agree with, they will appear superior. The more elitist & "enlightened" they appear to be, the better they feel about themselves.
The overwhelming majority of these people are wealthy or at least very comfortable. They are known as champagne socialists & most live in enclaves in an expensive part of north London.
If she was to admit she liked anything normal folk liked, how could she remain aloof & above the masses?

 slade responded on Monday, 22nd February 2016

So it's those damn pesky liberals again, huh? This time it's the English brand...wow, and here I was thinking this site wouldn't pander to the lowest denomination of comments: the "liberal", "lesbian" "what did you expect from a liberal" sort. What an enlightened discussion!

I agree with the view of Mr. Monster: the article is unintentionally funny. The comments, well, less said the better.

 gradytripp responded on Monday, 22nd February 2016

I agree with Slade. ("Hear, hear!" as they might say in Parliament.) The tone of some of the responses here is disappointing.

And the idea that journalism of the past was somehow more "factual" is mistaken--"Dewey Defeats Truman," anyone?

 lewintn replied on Wednesday, 24th February 2016

Well, no, that's just nonsense. Journalism of the past was more factual as journalism of the present is largely non-existent. Many today couldn't even read at the level with which news of the past was presented. The "Dewey" headline error is famous because it was such a huge miss for a largely accurate press...not to mention a famous photo opp. Such a thing would hardly be noted today due to the quantity of "news" presented coupled with the volume of errors in that quantity.

That aside, the writer of the piece is a joyless prig regardless of her political affiliations.

 LosZorros responded on Tuesday, 23rd February 2016

Surprised Slade didn't mention the "British accent" with such an enlightened response.

 slade replied on Tuesday, 23rd February 2016

"Scots are Brits. England,Scotland,Wales,Northern Ireland = Britain."

Yes, and this statement is most enlightening. Or not.

 Drake responded on Tuesday, 23rd February 2016

She IS a rather joyless scold, isn't she? Ms. Bindell strikes me as the type who is chronically unhappy that somebody, somewhere, is having fun. What a frump.

 saharalv responded on Tuesday, 23rd February 2016

Funny how people are throwing the word "liberal" like it's a reason why a type of person doesn't like Vegas. Check out the definition of liberal in the dictionary. Think maybe some of you are confusing it with the word "conservative".

 pkluvsvegas replied on Tuesday, 23rd February 2016

The modern liberal is as bad and in some cases worse than an ultra conservative.
Both want to restrict what you do and don't do. What is worse about the liberal is that they use "tolerance" to stamp on the rights of others.

I don't want to live in a theocracy or Pleasantville and I don't want to live in some godless, beige, PC world where everyone is worried about offending everyone else either.

 littermulch responded on Wednesday, 24th February 2016

She probably hated the pale, booby segment on Benny Hill, too.

 KickedBoar591 responded on Thursday, 25th February 2016

While I certainly don't agree with the sentiment espoused by Julie, she certainly has the right to her point of view. Sometimes folks are paid to express their opinions. Just because it doesn't jive with yours, doesn't mean we need to attack her professionalism. It's my guess her editors likely knew she was going to not like Las Vegas and knew this time of sensationalism would sell well.

And honestly, they were kind of right. This link has generated the some of the most discussion around here in weeks.

All that said, Julie does strike me as the kind of person you run into during a dinner party who just wants to take aim at something you hold dear. It could be Las Vegas, your favorite TV show or the book your reading. In that case, I smile politely as I excuse my self to attend to a personal matter outside of the room, only to never return to her company again that evening.

Likewise, I gave a cursory read to her opening paragraphs and closed the page before I strained my eyes with the constant rolling.

Now I will go about my day without giving her a second thought beyond this post.

 MinVegas responded on Friday, 26th February 2016

I self identify as a progressive and read The Guardian quite a bit. I've certainly never agreed with every commentary piece, and this one doesn't really seem like a particular reason to rag on people's politics. It is a badly written critique, though.

There's better critiques of Vegas, if that's what you're looking for. Louis Theroux's video focusing on the former Hilton and it's VIPs and how they range from intelligent to ignorant, rich to poor, but all of them are throwing frankly absurd amounts of money at the tables is an actual good one.

That said, I think a lot of people in the Vegas web are familiar with the complaints of long walks to hotel elevators, porn slappers, and weirdos who are eating McDonalds at the food court when surrounded by all this high-falutin' culinary. Creaky elitism aside, many of the complaints are the same kind I've heard here. All she forgot to do was complain about Sidewalk Spongebob and resort fees.

 ffye20 responded on Tuesday, 1st March 2016

Lol the Guardian is a rag now? Hahaha what would you prefer The Daily Mail, the trend obssessed NYT, Uncle Shelly's doomed Review-Journal? While I don't agree with the author or find it a well informed article, that has nothing to do with the quality of the Guardian, which covers US and international news far better and with more depth and analysis than mainstream American publications. Not every one is gonna love Vegas and that's fine no need to go on a rant against a newspaper because of it.